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[tucstwo]

Hence why I'm jumping ship. Dan himself said "start buying unlocked devices if you care about root". Now you see why. He's said that as he finds and publishes these exploits and they get patched, it just makes it harder and harder each time. Diminishing returns. I also see the writing on the wall for VZW devices (not just Moto...Samsung VZW devices are not having a happy time right now since Loki just got shot in the head by their latest OTA). Tough times now and impossible times ahead. WE need to take control back. If we want root, if we want custom roms, we have to be willing to put up the cash to buy an unlocked phone. Even if it's a cheaper Nexus. That also gives us control back over our contracts. I'm not going to be locked in on AT&T...instead going monthly.

How do u go monthly on Att?

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[megahertz1970]

OK so my questions are.... Is it worth it to flash back to stock to take the update? If I flash the DST version backup back onto my phone do I keep the benefits? Or will it rewrite everything?

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Can anyone answer this? 2nd time I'm posting.

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[SamuriHL]

How do u go monthly on Att?

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You BYOD.    No contract if you're not subsidizing.  

[tucstwo]

Can anyone answer this? 2nd time I'm posting.

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If the dst contains a radio then all benefits of this update will be over written.

[SamuriHL]

Can anyone answer this? 2nd time I'm posting.

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You will keep the radios even with a custom rom.  So yea, it's worth at least flashing those.

[SamuriHL]

If the dst contains a radio then all benefits of this update will be over written.

 

Or you know, this...

[megahertz1970]

If the dst contains a radio then all benefits of this update will be over written.

OK thanks tucs. I'm not sure if it has the radios or not. I'm referring to the DST with mods posted on here in the ROMS section by mhouse33. Is it even worth it to take the update?

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[KaChow]

I have a pretty strong feeling that this OTA marks the beginning of the end for Motorola/Vzw development.

Unless moto gets a set, or vzw backs off... I doubt we'll see any newer phones rooted, unlocked and not see any further unlocking /rooting to the HD / M.

Obviously if there was more than one person on the planet capable and trying to perform these roots and unlocks, it wouldn't look slow glum. But sadly, as far back as I can remember.... There's really only one guy who does(did) it, and we know how that's ended.

This actually reminds me of something I read a few months ago, as I was looking around for Moto X rumors.

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Which basically what the trend could possibly be is that Verizon will (rumor) be offering Unlocked bootloaders at montly fee of $15pm. It's interesting that this article came out back in January and it is so close to being accurate. Which I have to wonder not whether development will be ending on Motorola devices, but are we going to have to pay more for what we want? I mean if it is $15 a month which for 12 months that's an extra $180 a year (not including tax) on top of the already retail cost of the device that will most likely not be covered insurance anyhow. Any thoughts? -and I didn't mean to take this off topic.

[SamuriHL]

This actually reminds me of something I read a few months ago, as I was looking around for Moto X rumors.

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Which basically what the trend could possibly be is that Verizon will (rumor) be offering Unlocked bootloaders at montly fee of $15pm. It's interesting that this article came out back in January and it is so close to being accurate. Which I have to wonder not whether development will be ending on Motorola devices, but are we going to have to pay more for what we want? I mean if it is $15 a month which for 12 months that's an extra $180 a year (not including tax) on top of the already retail cost of the device that will most likely not be covered insurance anyhow. Any thoughts? -and I didn't mean to take this off topic.

 

That article is reposted moot from sargentmajord.  The 15 dollar a month thing was only something VZW was considering not something they were putting into actions for sure.  It looks like in the months since that VZW has been getting more rigid about locking stuff down.  There's the developer devices and that's about it.  They aren't even allowing GPE devices for crying out loud.  This is why I'm bailing.

[bjoostema1933]

Hey guys,

 

I downloaded the new update and got a "failed to install update" when I rebooted.  I save root via voodoo and have an unlocked bootloader.  Even though it said fail, I have the new radio and version number.  Should I pursue it until I get no fail message or leave well enough alone since, to all appearances, the update worked minus the message?

[SamuriHL]

No, you're good.

[SamuriHL]

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[bjoostema1933]

Awesome, and thanks for the reply buddy! I respect the hell out of you for helping everyone out so much with this matter.

[marleyinoc]

You BYOD. No contract if you're not subsidizing.

I'm on ATT on my nexus 7 and switching phone eventually. I'll be byod but the frustration of it to me is that while not locked into contract I'll be be irked that the monthly price has some cost built in to pay for subsidized phone... So not being locked in only benefits me by hopefully getting carriers attention and also maybe down road someone else offers better deal and I can switch on the spot. Someone that has same quality gsm service in area. Umm. Ouch. Maybe in a few years.

Still doing it because sick of being verizoned.



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[Pearlmikejam]

I just got off the phone with Motorola. I was asking about my issues not receiving all text messages. They claimed I should have received the 9.20.1 update. When I told them I got the 9.18.79 update, they asked for my phone number again and told me my phone was rooted. They claimed I received the 9.18.79 because my phone was rooted.

This came from advanced support. When I pressed further asking questions about how updates can be applied to a rooted phone, I was put on hold and later told OTAs can be applied to rooted devices. No further explanation was given.

That said, is anyone else surprised that Motorola knows this about my phone? Did anyone that is rooted get the 9.20.1 update?

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[livinginkaos]

I call BS on that one.

[tucstwo]

Like we've determined with almost like certainly, newer phones were pushed a different update. I'm not sure it matters that they know you're rooted or whatever, I wouldn't care about it. But they may be right, you may want to revert back and flash the other update.

[Pearlmikejam]

Like we've determined with almost like certainly, newer phones were pushed a different update. I'm not sure it matters that they know you're rooted or whatever, I wouldn't care about it. But they may be right, you may want to revert back and flash the other update.

I did revert and the update pushed was the 18.79. I do not trust the explanation about the update, but was surprised they knew I was rooted.

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[KaChow]

I wouldn't say that I am surprised they knew I was Rooted. Take a look for yourself>

 

enter ##PROGRAM     hit call>

at the Enter SPC password >

000000

scroll down to 15 "Device Rooting" >Rooted

No surprise here

 

Surprised it doesn"t say "Unlocked"

[DeJaVu74]

Write I knew they could tell if you had unlocked the bootloader on the consumer editions, but I was under the impression the device had to be in hand. Nice to know you just have to call Moto for them to know you have root. maybe they can see the phone ultimately run better that way also....

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