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[DR650SE]

What is the difference between the two? I recently got an XT912 a ew as ago and installed BMM, and am running CM10.2. A lot of what I read here makes it look as if mist are using SS. Am I at a disadvantage using BMM? What is the difference between the two? Or are the essentially the same? Thanks for giving some guidance to this n00b. lol

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[cmh714]

The disadvantage to BMM is its not supported anymore and very few people here use it. Otherwise, they accomplish the same thing.

[DR650SE]

Ah gotcha, thanks for the info!

I may as well switch to safe strap. How wold I go about doing that, and would it result in a wipe of everything I have installed?

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[cmh714]

Well lets see, since I dont know BMM, I would say backup everything then revert back to your Stock ROM, disable/uninstall BMM and then install SS.

 

Not sure if a backup will across the two so you may end up starting from scratch

[DR650SE]

Ah gotcha. Only problem is that I never backed up stock. I overlooked that step. Lol. Trial and error time :

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[cmh714]

Well then I would say that yes you are starting over, and can use Matts utility to get back

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[DR650SE]

Just switched to from BMM to safe strap. It was easy. Had both BMM, and SS installed on my stock ROM, CM10.2. Opened the BMM app, and selected uninstall recovery. Then opened SS and selected install recovery. Done. Explored SS and it has a nicer interface. Then backed up my Stock ROM (CM10.2). The one thing off the rip I liked about BMM, was the 3sec time out prior to booting the ROM, vs the 10sec time out of SS. Anyway to modify the time out duration? Also with SS, is it possible to install a ROM to the stock slot? I wold assume so. Guess I'll find out on the next 10.2 nightly. Sent from my DROID RAZR/JB CM 10.2 via Tapatalk II

[biggiesmalls657]

Just switched to from BMM to safe strap. It was easy. Had both BMM, and SS installed on my stock ROM, CM10.2. Opened the BMM app, and selected uninstall recovery. Then opened SS and selected install recovery. Done. Explored SS and it has a nicer interface. Then backed up my Stock ROM (CM10.2). The one thing off the rip I liked about BMM, was the 3sec time out prior to booting the ROM, vs the 10sec time out of SS. Anyway to modify the time out duration? Also with SS, is it possible to install a ROM to the stock slot? I wold assume so. Guess I'll find out on the next 10.2 nightly. Sent from my DROID RAZR/JB CM 10.2 via Tapatalk II

No and that's the beauty of safestrap. You don't touch the system side, you got 4 rom slots to play with....you can modify the system side but have a nandroid. Safestrap is basically bootstrap with safety!

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[johnthehillbilly]

While using BMM (or switching from it) ..... make sure ALL traces of it are gone (binaries, libs, cached portions etc).... BEFORE using Matt's utility (if you need to use it) ..... we have seen serious unrecoverable problems arise from the use of BMM..... just a word of caution

"... try not, do! or do not! there is no try..."

[DR650SE]

Ah, good advice. Now with the ROM slots, as they actually written to the SD card, or are they created with each boot? I'm wondering if there is any advantage to running the Stock slot vs the ROM slots.

My phone only seems to have 3GB for the system, and another 8GB for the internal card for apps, media, misc. I don't want to fill it up to much. Just moved my music to the external SD, as well as deleted a number of old backups. I don't want to run into a situation where I am low on internal space. That's one reason I like flashing in the stock ROM slot. I'm doing a lot of learning here.

I have a 64GB SD card so I have plenty of room there for music, videos ect.


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[johnthehillbilly]

The slots are actually written to the internal storage (in the safestrap folder)

And yes, I would use the external (sdcard) for all your media etc.....

[johnthehillbilly]

You can also read thru this thread

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[How-To]-Free-up-Space-On-Internal-Storage#entry305008 ... it will give you some insight on making as much space as possible on your internal.....

[DR650SE]

Thanks. Bookmarked the link. One more question. Since switching to SS, every time I reboot the phone, it runs through the "optimizing apps' thing, like I just wiped the cache/data. Will it do this every time? Or is there a setting I've missed? It really slows the startup time. Sent from my DROID RAZR/JB CM 10.2 via Tapatalk II

[DR650SE]

Ahh crap, I uninstalled Safe Strap, to test one last thing in BMM, and as I was installing BMM, it failed and froze : Now I can't get the phone to start, and to make matters worse, my laptop is awaiting a motherboard and I'm working off a stupid Apple laptop I had to borrow.

[johnthehillbilly]

I wish you the best of luck..... that is the exact same way we have seen some of the previous problems .... :/

"... try not, do! or do not! there is no try..."

[DR650SE]

Whew, that was a learning experience! Typical of me though, I learn best by wrecking something and having to figure out how to fix it. I was able to get it flashed back to stock, rooted, installed BMM, backed up stock ROM and kept a copy on thumb drive and external SD, flashed CM10.2 over stock. I'm thinking I may flash stock to slot 2. Tomorrow's project will be to completely wipe it, and go the Safe Strap way and see if I have the option to default the boot to either Stock slot, or slot 2 with CM10.2. I figure if I wipe and redo it, I'll get the hang of it and learn more and become quicker/familiar with the process I am half tempted to just stick with one ROM. Having more than one is nice for testing, but I'm pretty set on CM10.2. Don't think I really need stock. And that's easy enough to flash. After this whole experience lol. Good thing I can nap at work Sent from my GT-P3110 using Tapatalk 4

[cmh714]

Thanks. Bookmarked the link. One more question. Since switching to SS, every time I reboot the phone, it runs through the "optimizing apps' thing, like I just wiped the cache/data. Will it do this every time? Or is there a setting I've missed? It really slows the startup time. Sent from my DROID RAZR/JB CM 10.2 via Tapatalk II

this should only happen when the cache/dalvik are wiped.

[DR650SE]

That's what I thought too. Somehow it was being wiped with every reboot. :

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