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#1 lowvolt

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 03:02 PM

Or any android for that matter. My first droid phone was the droid X. My second was the RAZR M rooted both and flashed Roms like a crack flasher would. When it was time for a new phone I went with the moto x. Partly because of the touch less control and assist and partly because it was rootable. I rooted almost immediately, and even though I didn't have safe strap and there weren't many Roms available I still took comfort in knowing I was rooted. When I was turned on to xposed framework I started customizing as only an addicted could. And never had to see annoying ads on my apps as they were blocked. Then, along came the update. As I strive for electronic excellence, I thought " how can I go wrong?" Downloaded and installed the update. Now I know. No more root for this guy. Now I find myself searching the Google machine and forums trying to fond away to root, all the while knowing it can't be done. But, if by chance, by the grace of the root gods, there is a way, I will be one of the first to root again.

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 04:14 PM

It's a hard lesson to learn the hard way.  Root has become harder and harder to achieve.  It was nothing short of a miracle when jcase rooted it the first time.  Now, it may be a few days, a few weeks, a few months, or possibly even never before root is achieved again.  OTA updates are a double edge sword.  They bring fixes and improvements.  But they plug security holes....root exploits fall into this realm.  I got out of the game of trying to root consumer devices.  It's a losing battle.  Your best bet is to start a bounty and hope for the best.  If root is truly important to you, then going forward I'd advise buying only dev editions (if you're stuck with vzw) or GPE/Nexus devices.


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 04:18 PM

There is an unreleased root method. Supposedly its being saved for the next big update.


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 04:25 PM

That's a VERY big risky game to play.  :( There's not guarantee that whatever hole they've found won't get patched when the next update is released anyway.  Their assumption in holding it is that they won't be searching for new exploits themselves internally.  


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 04:33 PM

There is an unreleased root method. Supposedly its being saved for the next big update.

I heard the moto x may not get another update.

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 04:35 PM

?????  What do you mean won't get another update?  LOL.  It's not even 2 months old yet.  Of course it'll get another update.


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 04:48 PM

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 05:41 PM

?????  What do you mean won't get another update?  LOL.  It's not even 2 months old yet.  Of course it'll get another update.

I cant find the article again now. I just happened across it while searching.

 

Something to the effect of " barring any real issues this might be the last update the moto x sees"



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Posted 28 October 2013 - 05:44 PM

I cant find the article again now. I just happened across it while searching.

 

Something to the effect of " barring any real issues this might be the last update the moto x sees"

 

Not any chance in hell of that happening.  You're not even on 4.3 for crying out loud.  LOL!  :)


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 05:47 PM

That would definitely be the very last nail ! Ha ha ha

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 05:51 PM

I know. I was told when I got this phone that it was 4.3

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 05:52 PM

I know. I was told when I got this phone that it was 4.3

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 06:12 AM

never take ota until you see a fix for it,this has been going on forever-almost every ota takes your root away with no hope of a fix,jmo



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Posted 29 October 2013 - 06:14 AM

never take ota until you see a fix for it,this has been going on forever-almost every ota takes your root away with no hope of a fix,jmo

 

Not for me it doesn't.  :D


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 05:51 PM

Hey don't wanna get hopes up ;) but maybe

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 06:09 PM

Hey don't wanna get hopes up ;) but maybe

oh sweet! Any word on release?

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 07:31 PM

Normally he wouldn't tweet about it if he wasn't testing. Doesn't mean it's a sure thing, but I would definitely watch.

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 07:43 PM

Ha ha ha, with my luck it will come out just before 4.4. Lol

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 08:09 PM

Just a warning on 4.4. It enables some pretty tight security if you like root don't take it until they've confirmed just how locked down it really will be. We've been saying for a longtime that root exploits are going to get harder. 4.4 may make that a reality.

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 08:15 PM

Just a warning on 4.4. It enables some pretty tight security if you like root don't take it until they've confirmed just how locked down it really will be. We've been saying for a longtime that root exploits are going to get harder. 4.4 may make that a reality.

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I will indeed take that to heart. Thanks.

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