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#1 integrate

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 02:31 AM

I'm new to the game, but I'm wondering if you can use RSDlite to flash to 9.8 stock, unroot, then root from there?



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 04:29 AM

You cannot flash backwards.

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 10:47 AM

You cannot flash backwards.

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 02:12 PM

Also interested to see this - I actually grabbed the older file today hoping to flash back a version. I guess you want root too...



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 02:14 PM

Don't do it.  It causes a world of grief for all.  Too many have tried this already.


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Posted 20 November 2013 - 10:11 AM

Thanks for the warnings - I'm going to hold off. Hopefully the thread about a confirmed 4.4 upgrade will be soon.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 12:22 PM

q?

Can you flash as you want if you are unlocked?



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Posted 21 November 2013 - 12:25 PM

q?

Can you flash as you want if you are unlocked?

Pretty much. You still need a ROM for the device, cant just flash any old thing.



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Posted 21 November 2013 - 12:28 PM

You cannot flash complete old stock images.  The TZ security is still there regardless of bootloader. 


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Posted 21 November 2013 - 12:33 PM

Pretty much. You still need a ROM for the device, cant just flash any old thing.

Oh Roger that.

 

 

I meant within the boundaries of the phone. (XT926)

I had the chance to unlock before Moto patched it so just double checking before I set up my weekend project to catch up to 9.30.1 (still on 9.16.6) just to be safe.

BTW. Thanks for the fast response.



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Posted 21 November 2013 - 12:49 PM

You cannot flash complete old stock images.  The TZ security is still there regardless of bootloader. 

Oh oh.. a bit confused now..

Would you care to elaborate just a bit more.. when you can.



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Posted 21 November 2013 - 12:54 PM

Oh oh.. a bit confused now..
Would you care to elaborate just a bit more.. when you can.


In the TZ (trusted zone) partition is where the security lives that will not allow backwards flashing...... if unlocked, you can however flash everything but the TZ partition.... thus allowing an "earlier" version ....

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 12:55 PM

If you update to the 9.30.1 build in it's entirety, you will not be able to fxz a full stock image older than that.


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Posted 21 November 2013 - 02:21 PM

Ok so If I FXZ using RSD-Lite to the latest Ver ..that becomes my restore point from there on?? No chances to go back to an older / exploited version ??

If YES.

How "one" can get to the latest version Safely??

In others words.. whats the most efficient / advantageous way to get from (9.16.6) to (9.30.1) on a unlocked phone?

 

Recommendations / suggestions  all welcome. 



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Posted 21 November 2013 - 02:42 PM

On an unlocked phone, you have very little to worry about.  You can do whatever pleases you.  


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Posted 21 November 2013 - 05:27 PM

Oh Roger that.

 

 

I meant within the boundaries of the phone. (XT926)

I had the chance to unlock before Moto patched it so just double checking before I set up my weekend project to catch up to 9.30.1 (still on 9.16.6) just to be safe.

BTW. Thanks for the fast response.

There's a bloat free, pre-rooted, de-odexed, DST 9.30.1 on Batakang.  IMO, this would be your best bet to upgrade if you're unlocked.  You get very little of the Moto/VZW bloat and it's a ROM that will respond very well to tweaks, especially if you use the de-odexed version.

 

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 05:30 PM

Interesting indeed :)..... gotta check that out....
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Posted 21 November 2013 - 05:30 PM

There's a bloat free, pre-rooted, de-odexed, DST 9.30.1 on Batakang.  IMO, this would be your best bet to upgrade if you're unlocked.  You get very little of the Moto/VZW bloat and it's a ROM that will respond very well to tweaks, especially if you use the de-odexed version.

 

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Hey man thanks a ton for this info. I have to update my wife's unlocked HD but did not want to go through the hassle. Now I can just fastboot the new radio and kernel and load up this DST version.  :)


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Posted 21 November 2013 - 06:43 PM

yeah, I think its cause mhous doesnt post here anymore... 



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Posted 21 November 2013 - 07:21 PM

yeah, I think its cause mhous doesnt post here anymore... 

Yeah, it's a shame he doesn't, but I'm pretty sure he still peaks in here.

 

Hey man thanks a ton for this info. I have to update my wife's unlocked HD but did not want to go through the hassle. Now I can just fastboot the new radio and kernel and load up this DST version. :)

Actually, I'm not 100% sure it's DST because it's not labeled anywhere, but everything he's ever built has been DST.


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