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[Jcubed]

I read in an article that this doesnt apply to unlmited data plans.

"The FCC also is saying that Verizon cannot charge customers on tiered data plans the $20 a month tethering fee, but it can charge it for those customers who are on an unlimited data plan. However, Verizon will not actually have a way to determine if customers are using one of these apps, so presumably any Android customer can download one of those apps and tether to their heart’s content."

I'd say that Verizon will try to come up with a way to monitor unlimited accounts that heavily use tethering so they can get their hotspot fee, especially if the FCC is allowing them to charge for it.

Verizon cannot do more than monitor the usage of data on an account. Therefore, they will not know if someone is just streaming videos while uploading and downloading mass amounts of files at a time. . . on their phone. The way you are suggesting is that, Verizon can see all user data and interaction on the phone itself, and what the phone is being used for. If Verizon did this, it would be in violation of the ownership of the product, and therefore the owner's privacy.

[dccoh]

Verizon cannot do more than monitor the usage of data on an account. Therefore, they will not know if someone is just streaming videos while uploading and downloading mass amounts of files at a time. . . on their phone. The way you are suggesting is that, Verizon can see all user data and interaction on the phone itself, and what the phone is being used for. If Verizon did this, it would be in violation of the ownership of the product, and therefore the owner's privacy.

I think there is always things going on that we don't know (conspiracy theory! I agree, I dont think that they could monitor us besides seeing our high data usage which shouldnt matter if you are unlimited. With how big corporations are about money and not the costumer, it wouldnt surprise me if Big Red told data users that a new security app is required to be installed in order to verify them on the data network and allow access. And of course that app makes sure that if you are unlimited then it monitors tethering to see if you paid the $$ for it and blocks it otherwise.

Now I realize what I'm saying is far fetched, but i've been surprised more times than not.

ps. lovethelord, I believe you meant to post earlier and you instead edited my post with your comment, but I edited it back. You had me thinking that I had one too many this evening

[Raw Dodge]

This ruling was needed. Verizon has been out of control with charging customers twice for the same thing. I agree with it 100 percent... If someone has a data cap then they should be able to use that data however they want. I just hope unlimited users don't think this is there cue to do the same and abuse the system because Verizon will shut us down one way or another.. The way I look at it is that now since I'm paying full price to keep my plan., Verizon basically raised the monthly data fee from 30.00 a month to 45.00...the extra 15.00 they save by not subsidizing a device every 2 yrs.. 15x 24 months equals 360.00 about this average subsidiary on a new device... I used to try to keep my data no higher than 2gb average... Now I'm a little more lenient with my usage... Also the S3 is a data hog..... It must waste data jumping from 3/4G 40x a day... My data has tripled since I switched to it and I'm not using it anymore than the razr.

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[wulf]

I don't get it... when did they ever block tethering apps

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They removed pdanet from playstore a while back when it was still market. Looks like it in play store now

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. Dont know how long its been there though.

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[mrmuggyd]

Yeah uh, that's still warez and they're not gonna condone that.

Now you can use Barnacle or WiFi Tether instead and stop doing bad things.

Sorry, not trying to be difficult, but confused...how is doing that warez?? Warez to me is pirated software. How is changing the entitlement using SQLite software that I purchased and using the built-in Hot Spot software considered "warez"?

[flashman2002]

Sorry, not trying to be difficult, but confused...how is doing that warez?? Warez to me is pirated software. How is changing the entitlement using SQLite software that I purchased and using the built-in Hot Spot software considered "warez"?

I am curious about that thought as well. I guess since it is verizons app and you are manipulating it to be free, tbat might be what tson is meaning?

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[Hero_Indeed]

This is some pretty good news. Definitely a win for the home team! On a side note...stock ICS looks kind of sad doesn't it? That looks much happier!

[Jcubed]

I think there is always things going on that we don't know (conspiracy theory! I agree, I dont think that they could monitor us besides seeing our high data usage which shouldnt matter if you are unlimited. With how big corporations are about money and not the costumer, it wouldnt surprise me if Big Red told data users that a new security app is required to be installed in order to verify them on the data network and allow access. And of course that app makes sure that if you are unlimited then it monitors tethering to see if you paid the $$ for it and blocks it otherwise.

Now I realize what I'm saying is far fetched, but i've been surprised more times than not.

ps. lovethelord, I believe you meant to post earlier and you instead edited my post with your comment, but I edited it back. You had me thinking that I had one too many this evening

sorry bout that haha

[Jcubed]

This is some pretty good news. Definitely a win for the home team! On a side note...stock ICS looks kind of sad doesn't it? That looks much happier!

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[james]

i think it is a joke that us with the unlimited data plan could possibly get the screws it is bad enough that i have to pay full price for a phone if i wanna upgrade and still pay the 30.00 dollars a month for the data now i have to pay another 20 for tether on top of my bill that is already 150.00 for 2 phones and both are unlimited.....i hope in the end everyone will have free tether that is what is right we already paid for the function on our phones when we got them and now we have to pay more to use the features

[(TSON)]

Aaaand thread number 3.

:I

[portscan]

Well, I guess I'll do my part. Suck on this usage, Big Red!! Plan to do more next month!

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[alexh037]

Well, I guess I'll do my part. Suck on this usage, Big Red!! Plan to do more next month!

Holy @#$%! And i thought the 10gb i hit last month was a lot lol!

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[coletrane09]

Well, I guess I'll do my part. Suck on this usage, Big Red!! Plan to do more next month!

that's what i say..... And i thought i used a lot mostly streaming at work but its supposed to be unlimited

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[(TSON)]

Sorry, not trying to be difficult, but confused...how is doing that warez?? Warez to me is pirated software. How is changing the entitlement using SQLite software that I purchased and using the built-in Hot Spot software considered "warez"?

You're circumventing the entitlement check (meaning the thing that checks to see if you purchased the plan that allows you to use the tethering app or not) and using paid software. That's warez, basically the equivalent of downloading a Photoshop trial from Adobe and disabling the check on startup to see if 30 days have passed. You're using paid software for free without limitation.

[portscan]

Lol. I wanted to see if they say something. I busted 20 of those gigs in one day. I turn on FoxFi and use my Logitech Revue and connect to it. I use Netflix and stream HD content. While that's running I put on on the PC as well. Usage starts clicking quick.. I plan on doing 200 gig this month.

[dpratt23]

The entitlement check is bullsh1t. I paid for the phone and all its features. It is nothing short of racketeering forcing us to go thru them to get tethering ability. So idc who thinks it is warez really. I am walking my own path and i know it is the right one. They are crooks.....not us

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[shizumie]

Looks like everyone's "access fees & surcharges" just went up by 1.25mil.

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Yup

I am fear my blade!

[dpratt23]

Lol. I wanted to see if they say something. I busted 20 of those gigs in one day. I turn on FoxFi and use my Logitech Revue and connect to it. I use Netflix and stream HD content. While that's running I put on on the PC as well. Usage starts clicking quick.. I plan on doing 200 gig this month.

Run it dude

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[(TSON)]

The entitlement check is bullsh1t. I paid for the phone and all its features. It is nothing short of racketeering forcing us to go thru them to get tethering ability. So idc who thinks it is warez really. I am walking my own path and i know it is the right one. They are crooks.....not us

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Yeah I think it's BS that Adobe charges $600 dollars for their CS6 suite, doesn't mean I can pirate it and be oblivious to law enforcement just because I think they're overcharging... I'm still stealing software/services that I'm not paying for.

...But you do have the option of using GIMP or something else that does the job just as well if not better for free, though. (Which, in this case, would be WiFi Tether, FoxFi, Tether, etc.) WiFi Tether does the job better than the "Mobile Hotspot" app that comes with your phone, and is legal, and Verizon is unable to block it... so, why not use that?