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[cmh714]

At least the traffic will pick up soon....of course it will be mostly those that take the update and lose root without thinking/reading

[SamuriHL]

House of Moto is open for business.  LMAO

[ibolski]

Not really.  If you are not unlocked, think LONG AND HARD about this update before you take it if you care about root.  Otherwise I'm going to feel as sympathetic as I do for the idiots that took the VZW S4 update and minutes later asked when root was going to be available.  There will be no root exploit for this update so tread lightly.

I just got the soak test invite as well last night. My bootloader is unlocked and I understand it's a "physical" change (the exploit "blew" an efuse), but is it possible for them to lock the bootloader up again?

 

Also, would I be able to revert back to JB via HoM if I feel I don't like KK on my phone? I have KK on my Nexus 7 (2012) and it's okay, but it seems sluggish.

 

I'm currently running on stock, rooted. I didn't freeze anything, but I did install init.d which does "replace" the /sbin/adbd file (during booting) which allows for doing "adb remount". I can edit the script that runs this to not replace it upon reboot thereby keeping the original adbd. It also added the /etc/init.d directory along with the install-recovery.sh file in /etc. I'm not sure if that will affect the checksum on the filesystem I know the updates check for?

 

Other than that, I've only done the normal update via Google Play Store, so I'm thinking I should be good, correct?

 

Otherwise, I did do a nandroid backup of unrooted stock via TWRP so I could always revert back to that.

[SamuriHL]

You must be 100% stock on all partitions in order for the update to install. The changes you've made might cause it to fail. And it won't install at all if you're using twrp. If you're part of the soak, using the HoM to return to stock will likely screw up your chances of getting the soak pushed to you. As for the bootloader, they won't relock it. As for downgrading, it's possible on an unlocked phone using my HoM universal script.

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[ibolski]

You must be 100% stock on all partitions in order for the update to install. The changes you've made might cause it to fail. And it won't install at all if you're using twrp. If you're part of the soak, using the HoM to return to stock will likely screw up your chances of getting the soak pushed to you. As for the bootloader, they won't relock it. As for downgrading, it's possible on an unlocked phone using my HoM universal script.

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You stated if I return to stock via HoM, you're saying I still won't be able to accept the soak update? How do I get back to stock to ensure I can accept the soak?

Thanks!

[SamuriHL]

You stated if I return to stock via HoM, you're saying I still won't be able to accept the soak update? How do I get back to stock to ensure I can accept the soak?

Thanks!

 

No, that's not what I said. I said if you FXZ your phone, the soak will no longer get pushed to it because you'll have changed it.  The soak pushes to very specific phones.  FXZ'ing changes the properties of the phones so it's not recognized by the soak server. FXZ'ing with the HoM will allow the update to install once it goes OTA, however.

[ibolski]

No, that's not what I said. I said if you FXZ your phone, the soak will no longer get pushed to it because you'll have changed it. The soak pushes to very specific phones. FXZ'ing changes the properties of the phones so it's not recognized by the soak server. FXZ'ing with the HoM will allow the update to install once it goes OTA, however.

So basically, since I've already fxz'd a bunch of times, I'm hosed at this point for the soak test? They asked for the IMEI of the phone. I guess that still doesn't matter then?

Thanks!

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[SamuriHL]

Not necessarily.  It's a risk.  The IEMI doesn't change, but, it uses more than just that to identify your phone and push the soak.  It *MAY* work after an FXZ.  Once you get the email about the soak saying you're part of it, you should not FXZ if you want it to push.  In your case I know what I'd do, but, it's a lot of work.  I'd let the soak download, grab it from the cache directory, then FXZ and install it from your sdcard.  But that's just me.

[livinginkaos]

As long as you don't FXZ or FDR'd after the point in which you've officially entered the soak you should be ok. When you go thru the survey monkey there is a point in which you respond whether you've modified your device (this does NOT disqualify you) they will tell you to return to stock prior to completing the survey.

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[SamuriHL]

Yea, that exactly.  After that point, if you FXZ, it'll screw up the push.

[ibolski]

Meh, I'm hosed already then. After I completed the survey and entered my IEMI code, I was still running under my rooted stock.

 

I must not have read it well because I was under the assumption I could change back to stock after completing the survey. I haven't received an email that I'm officialy in the soak, just that I could take a survey and request ot be part of it.

 

Oh well.

[SamuriHL]

Wait and see what happens. At this point I'd leave it as is and see if it gets pushed to you.  If it does, copy it off from the cache directory before trying to install it.  If it fails, FXZ back to stock, then install it manually.

[sgpapesh]

Any way to keep root(before upgrade) when this becomes available to everyone?

[livinginkaos]

Any way to keep root(before upgrade) when this becomes available to everyone?

If you are bootloader locked, it is always best to assume that they new version will not be rootable.  That said, you may be able to use voodoo root keeper to maintain root, or it may not botch the root at all, BUT your ability to regain root may be lost forever, so if you ever had to reflash your system, you would be out of luck.

 

If your bootloader is unlocked, you have nothing really to worry about.  You will be able to regain root in custom recovery.

 

Never, never, never take an OTA immediately.  Wait for all those impatient folks to do it and see what the outcomes are.  It usually only takes a day or two to fully visualize what the cons are and evaluate whether you want to take it.

[SamuriHL]

Voodoo has not been working on kitkat updates.  SuperSU did not work for the S4 kitkat update, either.  DO NOT rely on that until someone that's unlocked has time to try it and see if it works and reports back for you.  

[livinginkaos]

Soak is rolling in now.

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[jtommyj]

Confirmed

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[ibolski]

Need to know (I have it already - they sent it to my phone but I've held off) if unlocked bootloaders are still unlocked after applying it? I don't want to apply it until I know for sure.

[johnthehillbilly]

Need to know (I have it already - they sent it to my phone but I've held off) if unlocked bootloaders are still unlocked after applying it? I don't want to apply it until I know for sure.

Unlocked is unlocked......

[jtommyj]

Need to know (I have it already - they sent it to my phone but I've held off) if unlocked bootloaders are still unlocked after applying it? I don't want to apply it until I know for sure.

Now just pull it out of the cache folder and post that bad boy for the pros lol

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