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[ForestCat]

Hi,

First things... total android noob, so go easy on me. That said, I've been an industrious lurker on the various forums, and I hope that, at this stage, I have a clue. Soooooo....

I've always been a believer in "image backups" as a good way to get back to an exact s/w state, given a common h/w platform. Before I start really richarding around w/ my new HD Maxx, I wanted a way to periodically snapshot it, in case the said richarding around really fubar'd my device, but I don't want that "new out of the box" experience. Looks like the closest thing to an "image" is a nandroid backup. But alas, it seems to depend on some recovery mod (clockworkmod, etc.)to get around the "can't image a live filesystem" issue, and, if I'm correct (and I hope I'm wrong...) us folk w/ locked bootloaders (damn you VZW...) are pretty much fek'd. What I'd like to know basically, is:

1. Are there any clockworkmod-type tools for phones w/ locked bootloaders that allow nandroid-style goodness?
2. Is there any possible way to "unlock" a locked bootloader(even if it involves surgery/soldering, etc)? "Buy a dev phone" is not the answer I'm after :-)
3. If 1 & 2 are no go, what are my options?

I post this at droidrzr.com because it seems that there's a decent amount of activity/experience here w/ the hd's. I read all 21 pages of the "Jelly Bean Leak [9.1.39Xt926.verizon.en.us]" thread. Very educational. I'm rooted, but still on ICS w/ the OTA update. Some apps I need are broken on JB. The ability to multi-boot os's w/ shared data would be very cool...

[eck79]

I'm waiting on my MAXX HD to arrive so I still have to respond from the perspective of DroidX and Bionic experience. As long as you can root and install a recovery (i.e. CWM) you can take a nandroid backup. I'm not sure why that would be different on the RAZR (MAXX) HD platform but I suppose it could be. I'm not an expert either.

[ForestCat]

Everything I've read leads me to believe that clockworkmod, and all it's usefulness can't be installed on a device w/ a locked bootloader. However, five minutes ago I discovered that two days ago, Safestrap became available for the Razor HD, so there's a lot more options now. Kind of exciting to own a handset that has so many talented devs pulling for it that the landscape is changing on almost an hour-to-hour basis. Really need to keep an ear to the wall at this stage.

BTW, I think you're gonna dig the phone. Comparisons to the S3 notwithstanding, the screen is gorgeous. Seriously. Battery life, at least on my Maxx HD, is pretty sick. Couple of days of normal use at least, even w/ some GPS nav, etc. It does not suck.

Back on topic, guess I need to rephrase my question:

Can one do a nandroid backup through safestrap?

[eck79]

I used to run SafeStrap on my Bionic but since VZW released ICS I just went back to stock. You can perform nandroid backups via TWRP which is included in SS3. TWRP is a CWM alternative (

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[ForestCat]

Thanks, eck

I read that SS is based on TWRP, but that there are some significant differences. I saw the backup option in the SS screenshots, just wasn't sure if this was the nandroid backup that I've read about.

[Hashcode]

The backups from TWRP aren't compatible with CWM, but they are a "snapshot" of your current partition(s) when you make the backup. So the answer is "yes, you can do nandroid style backups using Safestrap(TWRP)".

[ForestCat]

Coming from the dev himself, that's about as authoritative as it gets. Thanks so much for the clarification.

[megahertz1970]

Is there a safestrap V2.11 for the HD. I don't like the option if only having 3GB of internal memory. Since the apps can't be moved to external with this phone.