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#1 Pike

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:38 PM

So by now I hope you all know that our big brother government can get our locations without any warrant because there is no "Reasonable expectation of Privacy" when it comes to our handheld devices. Well I do have an expectation of privacy, and I expect the government not to be able to monitor my location through cell phone towers. Unfortunately I am not important.. just your regular everyday citizen..

To make a long question short.. Is there a way to spoof my cell reception to make it say I am getting connected through cell towers in Alaska or something? Freaks me out that Verizon will give up my location history without a warrant.. same thing with the rest of the carriers...

Just curious. Thanks for reading.

#2 NullPointerException

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:52 PM

Pike,

The Constitution of the United States guarantees everyone a chance at life, liberty, and the pursuit of happieness. Its important to note two things:
  • Happiness is not guaranteed, only the right to pursue it.
  • There is no such thing as a "Reasonable expectation of privacy", even outside the cellular realm.
Having said that, all carriers aggregate your location data out to third party sources, not just Verizon. There is nothing you can do about it, you "signed" a legally binding agreement with them stating that you would participate. You can opt-out by discontinuing service with them, and never getting service with any other carrier, ever.

There is no way to spoof location data. Your IP address, traffic data, browsing habits, sms usage, etc. are the property of their respective carriers, and can be distributed as they see fit.

Sorry, that's just how it is.
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#3 Nanniepoo

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:37 PM

To expand on that I believe anything you give up "willingly" to a third party organization can be seized by the feds. I say "willingly" because most of us are not willingly giving it up, but it's in everyone's terms of service/privacy policy (that we all read right??) that we agree to. So any google search or anything that the third party we allowed to record, collect, monitor, etc is available to the feds.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 08:06 PM

Nannie, that's sort of true... The Fed's (or any LEO agency) can't legally demand it without a warrant (or the patriot act), but the carrier can willingly (without legal consequence) give it to them, if they request it. In general, people really should read contracts they sign. Heres another example:

Some states are what is called "implied consent" in regards to DWI/DUI's. What that means is this: When you sign for your drivers license you are agreeing that you will submit to breathalyzer, blood draw, or other means of chemical testing for drugs and alcohol while driving. If you refuse, you are automatically suspended for a year. It doesn't matter if you are guilty or not. When you signed the forms for you license you agreed to comply, or forfeit your driving privileges for a year. So, you could go to court, be found not guilty, and still suspended for a year.

Moral of the story: Make sure you actually agree, before you agree.
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