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[Th3H0ff]

Hello the topic says it all... I have to return my RAZR to VZW for warranty work (Several stuck pixels in the center of the screen). So anyway I installed the .211 leak when it was first posted on here and since it was released as the final build I'm needing to return the RAZR to stock completely with no trace of any of my monkey business I'm assuming the stock recovery wasn't overwritten so that should be fine, I'll need to delete the zip from the ext sd card, and ill need to remove the SU app from the build which can be done through a terminal emulator if I remember right but I just dont remember the command... Thanks for all of your help!

[DarkOverDroid]

Just a suggestion, but IMO, it would be simple and quick to just use Matts 1.7 utility to bring you back to stock un-rooted .211.

[tucstwo]

What caused the pixels to act up? What does it look like? You may be able to just leave your phone alone, it depends on how that happened to your phone.

[Th3H0ff]

Yeah Matts utility definitely seems to be the most logical solution.. Thanks! And I don't mean to give the wrong impression but I'm not attempting any type of warranty fraud. I didn't brick my phone or cause it to become broken in the process of tinkering... a group of pixels in the center of the screen just simply became stuck and unresponsive. I would never ask that VZW or MOTO replace my phone if I indeed broke it or bricked it somehow. Thanks again for all your responses!

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[DarkOverDroid]

Iv'e noticed so many people woofing about warranty frauds all the time on these forums, and it drives me insane. The same people that complain about it do it themselves They can sit a say they don't because hardly anyone here knows each other personally and can`t contest it.(Claim to be an Angel all you want, and say you don`t but, you know damn well you do it, I get sick of hearing the warranty fraud B.S. I guarantee you every single person here has done it. There`s not a person here that can prove any different. They f up their phone by flashing, rooting ect, then file a claim. They are not buying new phones (At the costs of smartphone nowadays) every time they screw one up, they file claims, period! Quit acting like you don't by telling people, it`s bad and they are wrong for doing it. Your not VZ or the insurance company. FACT: If VZ or the insurance company finds that it's fraud when they receive the device back, they will make them pay full price.(It doesn't make our prices rise. It' costs the one doing it) Quit pretending on the internet where no one can contest your word, that you don't do it and it`s this crap is what's making your phone or insurance prices go up (IT`S SPREADING FALSE INFORMATION). You can blame that crap on your greedy provider and insurance companies FOR PRICES RISING PERIOD. You can take that to the bank. I get so tired of hearing about he ooooohhh, You're doing insurance fraud. Whatever man, it's not going to affect you a damn bit. I think it was on the petition i read on the front forums main page, that we account for only 2% of the smartphone buyers that Hack, Root, Flash ECT. So it's pretty much impossible for any of us to be responsible for higher prices. If people think we're really the cause, then quit creating ways for us to hack our devices. Not to be taking personally. Just a rant about untruthful B.S

[etrorteepe]

+1

The act of gaining root permissions does not cause bad pixels. The OP is not doing anything fraudulent imo. He just wants to send in his phone in a stock condition to avoid hassle. I know exactly what the owners manual says about root and warranty, and it's not carte blanche in regard to root = total void. Motorola could try to deny the claim but I would then immediately file a complaint with the FTC. In other words, even if installing nitrous voids my powertrain warranty, ford can't void the warranty on the power windows too.

Where people are in the wrong in regard to warranty claims, is when they don't know what they are doing, shouldn't have been messing with the phone anyway, then soft brick and turn in a claim because they don't have the ability and/or patience to fix it.

[jimgfitzgerald]

Iv'e noticed so many people woofing about warranty frauds all the time on these forums, and it drives me insane. The same people that complain about it do it themselves They can sit a say they don't because hardly anyone here knows each other personally and can`t contest it.(Claim to be an Angel all you want, and say you don`t but, you know damn well you do it, I get sick of hearing the warranty fraud B.S. I guarantee you every single person here has done it. There`s not a person here that can prove any different. They f up their phone by flashing, rooting ect, then file a claim. They are not buying new phones (At the costs of smartphone nowadays) every time they screw one up, they file claims, period! Quit acting like you don't by telling people, it`s bad and they are wrong for doing it. Your not VZ or the insurance company. FACT: If VZ or the insurance company finds that it's fraud when they receive the device back, they will make them pay full price.(It doesn't make our prices rise. It' costs the one doing it) Quit pretending on the internet where no one can contest your word, that you don't do it and it`s this crap is what's making your phone or insurance prices go up (IT`S SPREADING FALSE INFORMATION). You can blame that crap on your greedy provider and insurance companies FOR PRICES RISING PERIOD. You can take that to the bank. I get so tired of hearing about he ooooohhh, You're doing insurance fraud. Whatever man, it's not going to affect you a damn bit. I think it was on the petition i read on the front forums main page, that we account for only 2% of the smartphone buyers that Hack, Root, Flash ECT. So it's pretty much impossible for any of us to be responsible for higher prices. If people think we're really the cause, then quit creating ways for us to hack our devices. Not to be taking personally. Just a rant about untruthful B.S

I'm sure this is incorrect. I would bet less than 10 percent of the people here who brick their phones would file a fradulent warranty claim. And it absolute does add to everyone else's cost. Companies pass all of their cost on to their customers. On the other hand, I doubt anything the OP did would cause his fubared screen.

[nailbomb3]

Rooting your phone does not violate the provision's of the magnusson moss warranty act which is federal law last time I checked. It has to be intentionally damaged for them to not honor your warranty. Check xdatv on YouTube for a recent episode about this.

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[etrorteepe]

Rooting your phone does not violate the provision's of the magnusson moss warranty act which is federal law last time I checked. It has to be intentionally damaged for them to not honor your warranty. Check xdatv on YouTube for a recent episode about this.

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Link to that episode on xdatv:

[etrorteepe]

Can we please not start this nonsense again? This thread will get locked.

I don't want to start trouble with you. I know you put in a lot of time here helping people. But it's just not a true statement that root = instant loss of all warranty. And it's not fraud for the op to turn in a claim on dead pixels simply bc he gained root permissions.

You don't agree for some reason and therefore you lock threads and chastise people, regardless of how many facts they try to offer you. Lock the thread if you wish, that will be my cue to close my account here.

[DarkOverDroid]

Say what you want spc. Lock it down man. If I can't state my opinion, then I might as well taken my opinions elsewhere. As for jimfizgerald, you always post bull$!#7 on here anyway you don't even mod your devices, but yet you come here to chastise people for doing to theirs. I expressed an opinion I had and now the thread is being threatened to be locked. As for you SpcHicks, I stood by you Through all the $!#7 you went through when y'all almost bricked a lot of people's phones permanently, and I was one of many that begged you to stay when you was going to leave, and this is how you act when I express an opinion. That's all well and good. Have a nice life, I out! Peace.

[jryock]

So... I would like to see a definitive answer to this thread topic question. As a newbie to rooting and the Razr Utility, I would like to see a quick procedure on how to do this to ensure that, if I choose to unroot, I do it right. Any input here?

Imay want to gift my phone to a technologically challenged individual and what to ensure it is stock (or as close as possible) so they have the basic Verizon/Moto experience.

[Thach]

★★I have reopened this thread! If everyone can post there comments or rebuttals, in a mature manor this topic will remain open. Anymore personal attacks will result in a 2 day ban and 2 infracrion points. So lets not fight! Agree to disagree and be mature about it. Thank you.★★

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My god you are long winded and boring!!

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