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#1 larrygeary

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:58 PM

A lot of people are annoyed at today's news that ICS may be delayed till the 3rd quarter of 2012 for the Droid RAZR. I'm not terribly disturbed because I'm not sure ICS will make a noticeable difference to my phone.

I use GO Launcher EX (this is not an endorsement), so I have access to a variety of themes, customizations and animations. I can make the screen as dense as 5 x 5 icons. I have an extendable dock I can customize. I can create a folder by dropping one app on top of another, either on a home screen or in the app drawer. Organizing apps into folders makes it much easier to find things in the app drawer - I usually only have 2 screens. I can create additional home screens. I can resize widgets. I can clear a list of notifications one by one or all at once with the touch of a button.

Using either Titanium Backup or Rom Toolkit I can freeze apps and services I don't use so they don't appear, don't run, don't take up RAM or CPU cycles. Using Autostarts I can prevent the apps I use from popping up when I don't need them. ICS's ability to uninstall any app is not of any use when the app must be in place anyway for an OTA update to successfully run.

Even without various mods developed in spite of the locked bootloader, my phone runs fast and smooth. Hardware acceleration of some additional parts of the system is nice, but my phone barely uses the second core at all. I suppose the extra power is important to a gamer, but I'm not one. As for battery life, I can get anywhere from 24-48 hours on the RAZR's slim battery depending on use.

I'm 90% happy with my RAZR, the things missing being 1% battery and the ability to see and quickly return to running apps (like Alt-Tab or the Taskbar in Windows). The rest will be taken care of when I can figure out an optimal organization of apps and screens for my usage.

So I'm asking, honestly, what is so great about ICS that I should desperately want to have it? Perhaps I've forgotten something crucial about it. And what feature of ICS makes you hunger to have it?

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 01:05 PM

IC3RAZR. No worries.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 01:08 PM

Blasphemer!!!!! Nah, I pretty much agree. I'm pretty much happy with what the Razr can do right now as well. I'm sure there will be some nice things that ICS has to offer that I would be happy with as well. But for what I need it for right now, it does the job. So honestly, I'm not too upset to wait, although I too am always wanting whats new.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 01:10 PM

I bought the phone for the promise of unlocked bootloader and ICS. The argument of 2.3 Gingerbread is good enough doesn't work for me. Windows XP is "good enough" but I bought a Windows 7 copy for Windows 7. I hope this makes sense ;)
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 01:28 PM

Once the camera is working in ic3razr I don't care how long moto takes. I would just freeze or remove most of the blur anyway.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 01:30 PM

everybody wants the next best thing the advertisements make us believe we need it...never ending cycle..

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 02:23 PM

I bought razr for the unlocked bootloader and ICS promises too...
Pretty disappointed motorola has dropped the ball not only once but twice on the razr.

However, compared to my OG droid 1 this is miles ahead of where I used to be.
I'm using eclipse 1.0 right now with adw and I'm pretty satisfied. But once ic3razr fixes the camera issues I think I'll be moving up to ics.

What bothers me the most about the whole situation is that the cake was a lie.

#8 larrygeary

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 02:43 PM

I bought the phone for the promise of unlocked bootloader and ICS. The argument of 2.3 Gingerbread is good enough doesn't work for me. Windows XP is "good enough" but I bought a Windows 7 copy for Windows 7. I hope this makes sense ;)

You reminded me of one concern I have about ICS. I'm typing this on a 2003 system that used to run Windows Server 2003 and it ran like the wind. But newer applications would refuse to run because of the old version of Windows. So I installed to Windows 7. Now instead of running like the wind it's more like a gentle breeze. Will ICS actually slow down the RAZR?

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 03:34 PM

I do not like ICS. I had a nexus for a week and wanted to throw the damn thing against the wall, and only half of it was Samsungs terrible design and hardware.

Really, I know it sounds weird, but I actually hate ICS. But I still want it. I feel like such a pig...

:-D :-D


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Posted 15 February 2012 - 06:59 PM

A lot of people are annoyed at today's news that ICS may be delayed till the 3rd quarter of 2012 for the Droid RAZR. I'm not terribly disturbed because I'm not sure ICS will make a noticeable difference to my phone.

I use GO Launcher EX (this is not an endorsement), so I have access to a variety of themes, customizations and animations. I can make the screen as dense as 5 x 5 icons. I have an extendable dock I can customize. I can create a folder by dropping one app on top of another, either on a home screen or in the app drawer. Organizing apps into folders makes it much easier to find things in the app drawer - I usually only have 2 screens. I can create additional home screens. I can resize widgets. I can clear a list of notifications one by one or all at once with the touch of a button.

Using either Titanium Backup or Rom Toolkit I can freeze apps and services I don't use so they don't appear, don't run, don't take up RAM or CPU cycles. Using Autostarts I can prevent the apps I use from popping up when I don't need them. ICS's ability to uninstall any app is not of any use when the app must be in place anyway for an OTA update to successfully run.

Even without various mods developed in spite of the locked bootloader, my phone runs fast and smooth. Hardware acceleration of some additional parts of the system is nice, but my phone barely uses the second core at all. I suppose the extra power is important to a gamer, but I'm not one. As for battery life, I can get anywhere from 24-48 hours on the RAZR's slim battery depending on use.

I'm 90% happy with my RAZR, the things missing being 1% battery and the ability to see and quickly return to running apps (like Alt-Tab or the Taskbar in Windows). The rest will be taken care of when I can figure out an optimal organization of apps and screens for my usage.

So I'm asking, honestly, what is so great about ICS that I should desperately want to have it? Perhaps I've forgotten something crucial about it. And what feature of ICS makes you hunger to have it?


TaskSwitcher works well for the "Alt-Tab" -esque experience. You map it to your home key and then double press if you want to go back home rather than see your running apps or press the back key to stay where you are. The 1% battery issue has already been resolved elsewhere on the site I believe. As for 2.3.x I enjoy it enough to not want to go to 4.0.x but it would be nice. Honestly for tablet sized things I just use my Galaxy Tab 7+ though.
Not too sure what Technoviking meant by "terrible design and hardware" as aside from the camera I think the specs are the same and the softkeys were Google's idea as far as I know.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 07:30 PM

I had bought my RAZR expecting my unlocked BL and ICS, but all I really care about is the unlocked BL and a year or so of driver support. With that, I put more faith in the community than I would in Motorola anyways.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 07:54 AM

I have a Toshiba Thrive and Droid Razr. Someone finally came out with an O/C kernel for the Thrive and I can say I am actually happy with both devices and their performance. There really isn't a need for a different O/S for me as far as business use. Both devices are rooted and bloatware if frozen. I'd have to say I am a pretty happy camper right now. Am I thrilled with Motorola or Toshiba on how they handle customers? Hell no.

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 09:05 AM

everybody wants the next best thing the advertisements make us believe we need it...never ending cycle..


Screw ICS!!! I want Jelly Bean!!! B)

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 08:31 AM

ongoing "Voice Typing" is the awesome feature in ICS. dictate a whole email, white paper, whatever, don't push a button every sentence or two. Further, google identifies words for which it is less confident of its transcription, and gives you autocorrect options for them. Ongoing Voice Typing is THE killer feature in ICS. The rest of it? Meh. IMHO.

I had a gnex for 16 days, now a razr maxx. The ongoing voice typing is the only thing I miss.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 09:08 AM

Not too sure what Technoviking meant by "terrible design and hardware" as aside from the camera I think the specs are the same and the softkeys were Google's idea as far as I know.


You left out the modifier in my sentence, "I had a GNex for a week and wanted to throw it against a wall, and only half of it was Samsungs terrible design and hardware."

Yeah the ongoing dictation looks cool (and I do miss it), but I'm not convinced it's any different from what we have now; it just looks different. I can dictate an extremely long email with it just the same, but I do miss it I think mostly because it was way more cool.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 10:20 AM

It doesn't matter. The developers will have ICS fully up and running soon if you're rooted, so who cares how long it takes Motorola?

RAZR No Longer.  Currently running the LG G2 and HTC One (M8)

Time for Moto to update the line!


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Posted 21 February 2012 - 10:54 AM

I agree with mattlgroff, my point made recently to local powerless-but-forced-to-listen VZW people was that it's about VZW devilering on what they promissed. I would probably hate ICS and RSD back to a gingerbread rom but I want the option. They say the nexus is the most returned phone in the store because ICS has sso many issues. Now, I'm sure once we got a hold of it, we could fix a lot of them but still - they promissed it, so where is it?





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