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[llawen]

Lawrence O'Donnell challenge Romneys son to a fist fight. When have you ever heard a conservative anchor doing that on the air? Now who is extremist? Watch the clip yourself

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[brewzer]

Sigh Too much fox news that the right wing relies on. Also the gop has done a good job convincing working poor that obamacare is bad when it is actually a good program for them.

I don't watch fox much myself. If you want unbiased US news you need to read foreign news sources. They don't protect Obama.

[- JPB]

Heres a question, how many Liberals will commit suicide when they're God Obama is defeated in November?

I'm sorry, but this is simply offensive, on many levels. It seemed people were having a fairly respectful exchange of opinions here and THIS is your contribution?
You should be ashamed of yourself!

[medic]

All I know is that I pay $200+ a week for health and dental insurance. This has risen 45% since the current President mentioned his health care plan for America. 45%. This, combined with high deductibles and co-pays, IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. Especially when I get calls at o'dark thirty because someone has the fever and chills, or has a cough, or has butthurts(their quote, not mine!), That is the reason why the system is broken. Simple fever and chills. Ambulance ride to the ER costs. ER visit costs. Lab costs. ER MD costs. RX costs. Ambulance ride back home costs. For a freaking fever with chills. Especially when you can wait, take Tylenol/Motrin/NSAIDS, wait until the morning, and go see your PMD. Or go to an urgent care in one of the six cars you have in your driveway.

[llawen]

actually, I agree with you. That remark was uncalled for.

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[brewzer]

All I know is that I pay $200+ a week for health and dental insurance. This has risen 45% since the current President mentioned his health care plan for America. 45%. This, combined with high deductibles and co-pays, IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. Especially when I get calls at o'dark thirty because someone has the fever and chills, or has a cough, or has butthurts(their quote, not mine!), That is the reason why the system is broken. Simple fever and chills. Ambulance ride to the ER costs. ER visit costs. Lab costs. ER MD costs. RX costs. Ambulance ride back home costs. For a freaking fever with chills. Especially when you can wait, take Tylenol/Motrin/NSAIDS, wait until the morning, and go see your PMD. Or go to an urgent care in one of the six cars you have in your driveway.

Wait until you see how much healthcare costs you when its free!

[llawen]

All I know is that I pay $200+ a week for health and dental insurance. This has risen 45% since the current President mentioned his health care plan for America. 45%. This, combined with high deductibles and co-pays, IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. Especially when I get calls at o'dark thirty because someone has the fever and chills, or has a cough, or has butthurts(their quote, not mine!), That is the reason why the system is broken. Simple fever and chills. Ambulance ride to the ER costs. ER visit costs. Lab costs. ER MD costs. RX costs. Ambulance ride back home costs. For a freaking fever with chills. Especially when you can wait, take Tylenol/Motrin/NSAIDS, wait until the morning, and go see your PMD. Or go to an urgent care in one of the six cars you have in your driveway.

I feel your pain. I do not have insurance. I am very healthy, in shape. I looked at getting quotes. One had a $6000 deductible. I am sorry not paying that much for a deductible that high.

By the way did anyone see in that Obama Care that they can still deny you coverage. They put in place a appeals clause you have to use. So, who knows how that works.

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[brewzer]

I didn't mean to be smug. Its costing me a fortune to o.

[King Howie]

I'm sorry, but this is simply offensive, on many levels. It seemed people were having a fairly respectful exchange of opinions here and THIS is your contribution?
You should be ashamed of yourself!

while I agree, I don't usually poke trolls. I prefer to only engage those who meaningfully contribute to the discussion

[llawen]

Wait until you see how much healthcare costs you when its free!

Do you actually think we are going to have free health care? Or are you being funny? Nm. Seen your post under his. But had to ask.

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[brewzer]

Do you actually think we are going to have free health care? Or are you being funny?

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I was just joking. Not free!

[King Howie]

All I know is that I pay $200+ a week for health and dental insurance. This has risen 45% since the current President mentioned his health care plan for America. 45%. This, combined with high deductibles and co-pays, IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. Especially when I get calls at o'dark thirty because someone has the fever and chills, or has a cough, or has butthurts(their quote, not mine!), That is the reason why the system is broken. Simple fever and chills. Ambulance ride to the ER costs. ER visit costs. Lab costs. ER MD costs. RX costs. Ambulance ride back home costs. For a freaking fever with chills. Especially when you can wait, take Tylenol/Motrin/NSAIDS, wait until the morning, and go see your PMD. Or go to an urgent care in one of the six cars you have in your driveway.

I wish I had six cars in my driveway. Or even two.

But seriously, folks... This is what I meant when I (think i) said the current arrangement allows those demanding the service to pay only a small portion of the care they receive. Lowered cost always leads to increased demand, which then pushes up the cost.

If one had to pay 100% of the cost of the ambulance ride, people would be less likely to call for an ambulance when their butt hurts. That reduced demand helps lower the cost of the ambulance for the poor guy with chest pains

Unleash the free market. Please!

[llawen]

I wish I had six cars in my driveway. Or even two.

But seriously, folks... This is what I meant when I (think i) said the current arrangement allows those demanding the service to pay only a small portion of the care they receive. Lowered cost always leads to increased demand, which then pushes up the cost.

If one had to pay 100% of the cost of the ambulance ride, people would be less likely to call for an ambulance when their butt hurts. That reduced demand helps lower the cost of the ambulance for the poor guy with chest pains

Unleash the free market. Please!

+ 1000000

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[llawen]

Well, now we know folks from all over the country from all walks of life can come together and have a civil debate on politics. We are not enemies. The I phones are the enemies....LOL

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[King Howie]

By the way did anyone see in that Obama Care that they can still deny you coverage. They put in place a appeals clause you have to use. So, who knows how that works.

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this should come as no surprise, really. The most effective way to control costs is to not have them. Therefore, more costly procedures will be denied to those having less to contribute. These are the death panels Palin (yeah, I know, but rest assured I'm not that much of a fan either) warned about.

And for those of you who wish to believe the party of the "little guy" wouldn't deny anyone coverage, I'll bet you can find a vid on youboob of Chairman Obama saying in a speech something to the effect that grandma may need to forget surgery and take a pill instead

[llawen]

If Obama care is not repealed, I am going to manipulate my taxes so I owe the IRS 100 bucks or come out even. I refuse to pay the tax. The only avenue the IRS has to get it is taking returns or suing you.

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[llawen]

I can find many videos of Obama stating he " would not raise taxes on anyone earning 250k or less" and this is on big tax increase in disquise

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[bandit420]

You are correct. And I agree...WOW WOW WOW!!!Are people that naive?

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[- JPB]

while I agree, I don't usually poke trolls. I prefer to only engage those who meaningfully contribute to the discussion

Fair enough, and wise as well. I guess I fell right into that one, huh? Someday, I'll learn...
Thanks,

[bandit420]

Healthcare reform in this country its about one thing. Control. A bureaucrat will now be intimately involved in every aspect of your life from how your born to when you die. Maybe if you post anti government posts or you don't belong to a particular party you won't actually get that procedure you need. A government that's powerful enough to give you everything is powerful enough to take it away. You don't want this.

You are wise beyond your years. The problem is TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT!!!! It is strangling the economy.

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